A protester holds a sign calling for a fix to unemployment benefits at a protest in Miami Beach.
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On today's show: antiquated equipment and systems have made it a challenge to get aid to the people who need it. Plus, some hackers are trying to rebrand themselves as ethical.
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Music from the episode
Stress Me Out Bibio, ft. Olivier St. Louis
Notion Tash Sultana
Sound is Vibration Atmosphere
Look What I've Done Maverick Sabre
Privacy Quasimoto, Madlib
The team
Nancy Farghalli
Executive Producer
Maria Hollenhorst
Producer II
Sean McHenry
Director & Associate Producer II
